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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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hello and welcome to the skeptic zone

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episode number 109 for the 19th of

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November 2010 Richardson's here with you

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from Sydney Australia happy birthday dr.

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Richie happy birthday dr. a gee I hope

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you're having a wonderful day with lots

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of presents and lots of noms on this

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week's show we have a sort of a a retro

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look back retrospective yeah right i'm

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going to play some stuff that i recorded

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like 10 years ago well more like it was

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recorded 10 years ago with stefan at

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Stefan soika at net FM when Stefan was a

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DJ at Nair FM the skeptics used to come

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in every week and it was sort of the

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ancient ancestor of the skeptic zone so

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this week I've thought I'd play for you

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an interview with Peter ratbags bowditch

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from ratbags calm and also a chat with

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Stefan and myself now this is because

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many of the skeptic zone team have been

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working flat out over weeks and weeks

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and months now on Tam Australia the

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amazing meeting which is coming up well

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in just just one week and the last week

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especially has been very busy for us so

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not much time to run around and put

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together a fresh skeptic zone so rather

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than having nothing at all I thought you

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might enjoy these these interviews and

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these chats actually i will update

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everybody is to some latest developments

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on the powerband front and that'll be in

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the middle of the episode so sit back

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grab that retro drink of Fanta pacchiana

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what's a retro drink hab Cola whatever

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getting very funky there eric b and

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rakim there and murder hit before that

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with ace of spades and paid in full with

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Eric be enough black Eames it'll song

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and we back in the skeptic tank with

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Peter voltage how you going Peter very

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well thinking real that's very very good

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always it yeah we know one thing I'd

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like to remind people about the skeptics

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is the fact that it's all about it's all

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about facts in evidence and scientific

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proof now science isn't always perfect

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and science still got a lot to learn

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thanks Roger but but along the way that

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it's it's the best thing we've got it's

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the best we've got well it's it's really

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all we've got to know how the world

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works it's actually the thing that makes

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the world work it would say everything

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that we do is based on sucks i think i'm

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talking a microphone now i mean if a

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wonderful scientist there's been no way

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this could even be happening I don't

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know how it works really that's right

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these computers I mean for God's sake

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how does that work and CDs I mean that

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that is pure site is no magic no magic

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that's right it's physics and science

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this next little segment with that is

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because there are a few people out there

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who are living in this world yeah using

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telephones and internet and everything

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else and still claiming that scientists

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know nothing and they're really just a

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bunch of fools who are just trying to

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kill our children with vaccinations yes

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that this is my particular I suppose

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Pepe pet pet please Danny vaccination

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people and one of my I think things I've

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been distressing out the last year on my

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website is the this person has been

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chosen as a hero in fact actually

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officially declared a hero in those

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terms really by the International

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chiropractors associations pediatric

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Council Oh this man is in prison in

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Florida for the rest of his life because

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he bought his 10 a 10 week old child to

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death hmm and he wasn't charged with

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manslaughter as people are and generally

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premeditated murder Wow now he's been

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declared a hero by the chiropractors and

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the anti-vaccination people have

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accepted him as I they are he's become

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their major cause get this man out of

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prison he is innocent the poor guy

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website where i first read about this

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was actually from a supporter of his

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mm-hmm and on that website it talks

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about the blood in the brain blood in

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the eyes blood in the spinal column

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bruising on the brow a bit too much

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information but your graphic for a poor

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listeners I'm pretty madness in tears on

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the four broken rib four broken ribs

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added / feeling that broken before the

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final assault and everyone else baby 10

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weeks are and then they all said a man's

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innocent well they held a benefit

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function for him in the United States

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earlier this year Oh wonderful and all

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and raved and they wanted to raise two

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hundred thousand dollars for an appeal

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now some of they had to be given to some

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other any vaccinations outfits

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presumably that plays a costume but her

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name tags or something yeah for sure so

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guy who actually got a Hilbert Amy right

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and he's offered to sell a kidney no I

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him seriously but I've gone one step

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further than that i'm going to help him

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out yep ebay for example will not

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auction body parts anymore and they

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won't so I'm running an auction on my

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website but both of his kidneys both of

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them before take both both at once that

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sounds like a very good idea I've

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received a little bit of what happy to

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put a bad reaction to the nasty comments

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about my option of his kidneys and

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including people saying how do I know

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that he killed the baby but I didn't put

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a jury decide either and all the

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evidence or the everybody's in jail

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right now why they why the

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this guy I really have no idea it's

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organizations one of them hasn't touched

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it right but that you're saying in the

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break david anti-vaccination people

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actually a result of vaccinations old

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evacuation so you get vaccinated and

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around and you die well what about in

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right the d30 vaccines the deteriorate

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reaction is generally crying right they

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to back soon all those actions go from

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somebody said that their child had this

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dreadful reaction and had to be taken to

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hospital where they were kept in

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attention kept half an hour news sent

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baby its reaction was to throw itself

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across the wall and magnetize the

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faith it was the fact it seemed to live

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60 kilometres now and this one I got

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something apologist so this is the kind

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of ridiculous stuff that happens out

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defending but the horrendous acts but I

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someone's okay Bobby are who lists if I

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saying you aren't being you are banned

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lucky you another one I haven't tried to

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know that comment about me to the

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mailing list and she said that big on

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the mailing list with me but like a

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woman who'd been raped bittinger sep

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forced to associate with rapists and the

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people who defended them oh I see now

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but my response was maybe there are

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people on this list with children who

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don't want to be on a mailing list with

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murderers of children and people who

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defend such murderers hmm I didn't

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lot I'm gonna try to lighten things up

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that it there's a lot of serious stuff a

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lot of people suffering out there a lot

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of people sticking up for people who are

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causing a lot of suffering so they get

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less you yeah we will in a minute and I

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about a kidney thing my

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personal theory is that if someone kills

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someone they should be forced to a

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donated at least one organ to her to

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make up for the life that they've taken

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people did he kill 180 is I think 167

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sees him hundred sixty seven pints of

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blood / / 167 weeks and I a kidney alum

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he could have saved countless lives if

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had he been kept alive but now they just

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killed him and well he was a relatively

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young man so he put his orbital bendre

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technician he could have been saving

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lives for the rest of his life and he

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could have made up for all those people

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saved double the number of people that

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he killed and I think that's that should

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happen anyone who killed someone rip out

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an organ and save a life to make up for

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it here's the Mark of Cain would

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retaliate and that's what we're doing

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here in the skeptic bank today there you

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go the Shakya there who made a very bad

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career move and came out the same time

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as Shakira Shakira and shicai but that

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was shicai we stop calling me an anti

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stalking song and there should be more

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of them here on any fam and here we are

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we're in the skeptic tank goodness

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gracious me it is the lone skeptic heads

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we got peanut Bowditch in here how you

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doing Peter oh thanks Meg your loan

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skeptic today what's what's the story

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well monomers and golden one the rest of

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my just disappeared this DC beautiful

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face of your never been kidnapped by

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alien it could be an abduction I'll

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check let's get the theory going

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straight away and so yeah well I belong

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welcome long ago and after all our

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stefan and peter is a member of the

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australian skeptics and this is the

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skeptic tank that we do every thursday

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here on their FM just after six o'clock

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which it is right now CD time and what's

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been happening in the world of

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skepticism from your perspective well i

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think the big story is still a follow-up

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of last week's magic water story oh yes

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we have lot of fun with that i was a on

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Lydia what's on Monday no I carried a a

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reasonable summary of the whole thing

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and what they did was they pointed a

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person paucity of journalism or

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investigative journalism that had gone

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into it look it took me I've I saw the

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thing original in a good weekend we're

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all said this is all brand new

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no one's ever thought of it before it

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all all amazing and the csiro that 20

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years been trying to figure out what's

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different about the sheep down there

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will be five minutes to find the colfax

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water companies modern 75 selling

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magnesium cub by cabinet in water and

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1875 1875 Wow and that was brand new and

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I also found out that this research

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which are so no genetic basis whatsoever

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for the long-lived sheep mm-hmm it's

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called the balou regine it's been given

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a name and I know about very well and

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was twinning in sheep and of course is

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20 it's got nothing to do with water and

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open to do with the world I mitre might

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just come in interject at this point in

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time for those people who don't know

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what we're talking about right now there

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might be some international business you

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know in Sydney Australia we had a big

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story last week where a very respectable

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newspaper in fact one of Australia's

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biggest newspapers and put out a story

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about some magic water some water that

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could cure all kinds of illnesses and

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ailments and what liver cleanse deliver

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and not cancer lengthened you're alive

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it made you live longer mm-hmm they

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didn't actually claim killers but the

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words Alzheimer's and arthritis were men

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with mention right because they knew

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that they'd sell a lot more water if

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they mention those two words they sold

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two million dollars worth of water in

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two days two million dollars into that

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which which makes me start to think that

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perhaps by that by the end of the first

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day there probably a run out of the

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water and above is filling it up out of

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the tap I think that might have been

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because because God say they contact we

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can only weaken any apostolate and so

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there you go that was a story the magic

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water was a journalistic total

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ridiculous thing for a journalist to do

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is to start claiming that water of any

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description has got any abilities to do

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those kinds of things what what it did

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the story to demonstrate that was the

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power of they are behind this sort of

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nonsense mmm that it ran in the magazine

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is the inserting the major papers in two

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cities so technically the largest

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circulation magazine in the Catholic

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world runs in the Saturday editions of

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major papers Sydney and Melbourne a lot

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of people read in that on the following

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monday night the two commercial current

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affairs programs on television both ran

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with the story on the Tuesday morning

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bodily know how would you call those

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things daytime daytime thing

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all type programs right at the story ran

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with it as well and the thing is once

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you see don t once they get you talking

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people start to go well maybe it does

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well you know maybe it is maybe there's

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and then next minute everyone just fall

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over for it and later on the week the TV

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stations did get some cider sin mm-hmm

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whoo but insiders didn't say what

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definitely can't do something they were

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saying things like well we don't know

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the mechanism by which those molecules

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could actually get into your body the

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velocity like when my point was that

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this man was claiming I'm you be a

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chemist I was very intrigued by the fact

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much a long time since I've done

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chemistry so the true by the fact that

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said he found this want to reduce

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acidity in the body and he found this

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special mineral water from mangrove

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mountain mm-hmm just north of Sydney now

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which had a low pH right now but if what

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I remember of chemistry was they've had

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a low pH in acidic so how's it going to

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fix tears to the VD body as I and as

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soon as you drink it I mean you'd be the

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what sort of acids in your stomach or

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hatake hydrochloric acid I think kind of

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but my initial impression i read it he

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was talking about the bicarbonate ions

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getting inside the salesmen getting

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inside the mitochondria in the cells and

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working their magic and working magic is

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the acid not thought bachelors like to

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get us for those seltzer pearls and

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rolled in water you hatin that happening

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at every one of the brilliance tells

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your body all I want it explode you die

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you didn't want to be aware wearing a

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raincoat of duty somebody did haha by

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the time the scientists started talking

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it was also like yeah it's all the two

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million dollars worth of water and of

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course the big thing about this was the

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fact that they were talking about the

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fact that the water had a lot of

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patients coming up for the rifle and and

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so that gave it that in the bottle is

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just covered it doesn't say anything

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except not for therapeutic use and and

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patron supplied for for all these

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different things and as we know with

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patents oh you can do anything my two

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favorite patents one is a patent for the

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Great Pyramid oh of course I don't know

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an excellent design by the way I don't

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know quite what the payments supposed to

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do but my truly most favorite Peyton in

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the world is a patent for a cata Musa

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hmm and somebody actually got a US

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patent for this and it consists of

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holding one of those laser pointers that

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people use when they give talks at

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conferences yeah and you shun the little

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red dot on the wall in your we could

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you can't go back a treasure the red dot

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oh that's a that's amazing so I think

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you could patent anything you can and

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there's been some petrol motion machines

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patented as well as in there you've got

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to be very careful to get a perpetual

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motion machine patented the US Patent

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Office have since about nineteen ten had

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a rule if they do something to be a

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perpetual motion machine you have to

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submit a working model right and what

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the rule is that on the 366 the day

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after the thing is submitted even is

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still working now they'll eat you the

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paper right so they haven't issued any

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but we had a run-in with this skeptic so

430
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over the last few words I think how the

431
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last year or so with an Australian pair

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that have developed not what they call

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it the federal motion machine because

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they're I've know when everybody has

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that don't work it's a free energy

436
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device that's free energy device

437
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absolutely much in the way the term the

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Sun is much in the way that multi-level

439
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marketing is not pyramid so oh I exhale

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the pyramid something is illegal that's

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right free energy device is not

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perpetual motion because the pit for

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motion is impossible however this

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machine that has producers is three

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thousand percent of patients so this is

446
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30 times as much energy out as goes in

447
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oh my god we are saved hallelujah the

448
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world is a better place my real worry

449
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about those things if they actually work

450
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they must keep speeding up until

451
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appointment actually fly apart explodes

452
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all they would yeah yeah in fact the

453
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whole planet would explode in about

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three Mike receive their they had some

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trouble raising money this group of

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people and they want to still look

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invest in building this thing and

458
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selling it now I no idea wasn't you

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would boil over those boxes and you put

460
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it in your house and keep small your

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electricity and sell electricity back to

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the grid and all of your neighbors and

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everything yeah I think they're

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wonderful thing because if we could get

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unlimited energy in Australia hmm we

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could do solenoid water we could

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irrigate the desert speak at our world

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we do be a paradise I would be amazing

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and we wouldn't have to burn coal we

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could just use it all together sticks to

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make computers and 00 amazing wonderful

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we're night we can I missed in his

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product but I can't see why why the

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government to covering it up really good

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yeah no I can't

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oh I must be with a coal company honey

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so wokay and yeah so basically the whole

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thing's a big load of buncombe and yep

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it's emotion and magic water they all go

480
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in the same them basket one of the

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father nor sees this petrol motion

482
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people are being there's another man

483
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who's another petrol motion machine out

484
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30 years ago man named Justin Newman

485
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claims that they stole his ideas uh-huh

486
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oh yeah well of course so interesting is

487
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that the website that that produced

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Newman's expose of their terrible that

489
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perfidy and filling his ideas here's on

490
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another page running an adverse enough

491
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for this put up a very loose oh of

492
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course absolutely oh it's it's it's a

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strange business for perpetual motion

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business the free energy business I'm

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going to go back to some reality now

496
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we're gonna play a song from a band that

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knows all about perpetual motion hmm but

498
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only when they are really off their face

499
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it's Motorhead and ace of spades you're

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that is xenian Katina there with a song

501
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I just have to check with management if

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I can actually say the name of that song

503
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can I say though Mayer song oh yes i can

504
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it's it's okay it's called kick ass yes

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King Oh shocking isn't yet the skeptics

506
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are just shocked at that kind of

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obscenity profanity and I'm we're back

508
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in the skeptic tanky with Peter Bowditch

509
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the the the creator and curator of

510
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ratbags calm what floor is me about that

511
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song you just played mm-hmm if someone

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had been Heather Heather ass kicked

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would it make a difference if they sent

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a printing to Sylvester Stallone's

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mother all right Sylvester Stallone's

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mother Jacqueline runs a website mm-hmm

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call star power and she's an astrologer

518
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right and she has on that website a

519
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section mayor called run pology run

520
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bollards oncology and what you do is

521
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basically the principle is this you take

522
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your trousers off right huh you sit on

523
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the photocopier yeah had a copy and a

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press press the green button yeah and

525
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send the resulting piece of paper dr.

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Jacqueline and she will tell you what's

527
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going to happen to you over the next

528
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year she'll read it yeah now of course

529
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she's joking I don't think she is um I

530
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think she might but well even if she's

531
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not I think she's having a bit of a

532
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laugh at the fact that I'm people

533
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sending their asses in I think [\h__\h] I

534
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think she's kicking a lot of

535
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many ass on the net and loving every

536
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minute but the thing is she is an

537
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astrologer so she's already under the

538
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skeptical microscope that's right just

539
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for being who she is so I rather like

540
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the idea I think I will have to actually

541
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send her a print on it's just so I don't

542
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have a photo probably myself system

543
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together the King goes to get mine done

544
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and that's why they call it kinkos but

545
00:20:19,330 --> 00:20:17,630
yes of course uh if they need well here

546
00:20:21,610 --> 00:20:19,340
we are again this is another big skeptic

547
00:20:23,350 --> 00:20:21,620
tanky we've talked about vaccinations

548
00:20:25,299 --> 00:20:23,360
and the horrendous things of the

549
00:20:27,070 --> 00:20:25,309
anti-vaccination people are claiming and

550
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doing and saying and supporting and

551
00:20:30,730 --> 00:20:28,880
we've also talked about the unique water

552
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:30,740
earlier honor that that has been

553
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floating and two million dollars worth

554
00:20:36,370 --> 00:20:33,980
of pick up soul in sydney last week and

555
00:20:39,010 --> 00:20:36,380
we just proved right here that is just

556
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water basically just bought it's just

557
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water may be slightly different minerals

558
00:20:46,029 --> 00:20:43,220
in it but no different than the unique

559
00:20:49,779 --> 00:20:46,039
water that came out when 1875 I don't 75

560
00:20:52,330 --> 00:20:49,789
1975 with the same sorts of claims yes

561
00:20:54,700 --> 00:20:52,340
science rules here in the skeptic tank

562
00:20:56,889 --> 00:20:54,710
and what else we got before we before we

563
00:21:00,970 --> 00:20:56,899
wind up this skeptic tank oh i thought

564
00:21:03,700 --> 00:21:00,980
i'm sort of lighter note yes please yeah

565
00:21:05,139 --> 00:21:03,710
it isn't all about no fighting the

566
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:05,149
alternative medicine people on the mad

567
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:07,730
people on the songs there are people out

568
00:21:12,580 --> 00:21:10,610
there who are just generally weird yeah

569
00:21:15,370 --> 00:21:12,590
and while the reasons kept detailed in

570
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person news is that it's all ball to

571
00:21:20,260 --> 00:21:17,899
have a joke like yeah if you go to

572
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Graceland you can actually buy until the

573
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:24,169
sighting diary i don't really bother

574
00:21:27,460 --> 00:21:25,970
pretty fun i don't believe that the

575
00:21:29,049 --> 00:21:27,470
president of state think the elvis is

576
00:21:30,519 --> 00:21:29,059
wandering battle over the place but

577
00:21:32,769 --> 00:21:30,529
their pride happy to sell the diver but

578
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:32,779
it's part of a joke yeah and so Elvis

579
00:21:36,940 --> 00:21:34,730
sightings is really a joke we can talk

580
00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:36,950
about that boss yeah that there are

581
00:21:41,500 --> 00:21:38,000
other people out there with sort of

582
00:21:43,450 --> 00:21:41,510
weird ideas and part of part of the

583
00:21:48,340 --> 00:21:43,460
problem you have with with white people

584
00:21:50,769 --> 00:21:48,350
fall into sex bad cults um no we had

585
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medicine things now is it it's a lack of

586
00:21:54,820 --> 00:21:52,070
critical thinking you see something

587
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:54,830
instead of saying gee that's not there

588
00:21:59,139 --> 00:21:56,570
you actually give us some sort of

589
00:22:00,760 --> 00:21:59,149
availability yeah right like the like

590
00:22:03,250 --> 00:22:00,770
the oj simpson might not have done it

591
00:22:05,980 --> 00:22:03,260
that's right yes yeah it said that it

592
00:22:07,629 --> 00:22:05,990
did seed of doubt and we go for it if

593
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they're the seed of possibility that

594
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that you know

595
00:22:13,180 --> 00:22:11,000
magic water works well that UFOs might

596
00:22:16,149 --> 00:22:13,190
be outta here and sometimes those people

597
00:22:18,789 --> 00:22:16,159
that make those claims appear to be very

598
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qualified qualified people no I found a

599
00:22:22,570 --> 00:22:21,019
person called George Hammond yeah

600
00:22:24,430 --> 00:22:22,580
there's all sort of university degrees

601
00:22:26,259 --> 00:22:24,440
did he invent the organ there Hammond oh

602
00:22:28,060 --> 00:22:26,269
no no no no not that one I different one

603
00:22:29,769 --> 00:22:28,070
okay and this one this man claims to

604
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:29,779
have found a scientific proof for the

605
00:22:34,659 --> 00:22:32,690
existence of God Oh at last I've been

606
00:22:35,769 --> 00:22:34,669
waiting for that I've been waiting for

607
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:35,779
that loving checking the papers every

608
00:22:39,850 --> 00:22:38,090
day now I know he's good it's true

609
00:22:41,619 --> 00:22:39,860
because he submitted it to a magazine

610
00:22:44,289 --> 00:22:41,629
and they rejected it now that's a sure

611
00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:44,299
sign that of year say what the oxy

612
00:22:47,379 --> 00:22:45,529
doesn't want to hear that the powers

613
00:22:49,450 --> 00:22:47,389
that be want to shut him up him yeah and

614
00:22:50,499 --> 00:22:49,460
on his website he's written a shot a

615
00:22:52,450 --> 00:22:50,509
little bit he's written to Stephen

616
00:22:53,950 --> 00:22:52,460
Hawking telling him about it of course

617
00:22:55,330 --> 00:22:53,960
they invite me i read livid Stephen

618
00:22:57,490 --> 00:22:55,340
Hawking the other week too well as I

619
00:22:59,379 --> 00:22:57,500
make my original comment of my first saw

620
00:23:01,029 --> 00:22:59,389
it boss it's you always go to the top

621
00:23:02,289 --> 00:23:01,039
yeah you know every time my computer

622
00:23:03,730 --> 00:23:02,299
crashes i'll rip off an email to Bill

623
00:23:06,220 --> 00:23:03,740
Gates and say hey windows is broken

624
00:23:07,810 --> 00:23:06,230
again bill except for me bill woman and

625
00:23:08,950 --> 00:23:07,820
I get about the same sort of answer did

626
00:23:10,869 --> 00:23:08,960
you get when you write the Stephen

627
00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:10,879
Hawking with a mad idea mr. Hammonds

628
00:23:13,749 --> 00:23:12,110
going to get them Stephen Hawking yeah

629
00:23:16,389 --> 00:23:13,759
apparently it's based on the fact that

630
00:23:17,710 --> 00:23:16,399
he looked at what psychologists do yeah

631
00:23:21,460 --> 00:23:17,720
and he noticed that the brain was a

632
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:21,470
three-dimensional structure now I said

633
00:23:25,210 --> 00:23:23,330
it's free dimensional structure I

634
00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:25,220
studied so-called hang up hang on let me

635
00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:26,960
die trying to get my brain around that

636
00:23:30,639 --> 00:23:29,120
but I just I just can't fold my brain

637
00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:30,649
around that whole concept what more is

638
00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:33,049
only one dimensional a lot of them Oh My

639
00:23:38,169 --> 00:23:36,110
Mind's one track one track one track not

640
00:23:39,549 --> 00:23:38,179
one track in three dimension so yes it's

641
00:23:42,249 --> 00:23:39,559
a three dimensional structure that's

642
00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:42,259
wonderful and and that seems to be about

643
00:23:46,389 --> 00:23:44,809
here oh he didn't notice it though I but

644
00:23:49,210 --> 00:23:46,399
I started reading this thing but my

645
00:23:51,669 --> 00:23:49,220
brain started to freeze up that he

646
00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:51,679
actually noticed a remarkable similarity

647
00:23:55,869 --> 00:23:54,320
that horses have four legs and cars have

648
00:23:58,749 --> 00:23:55,879
four wheels and partly this was some

649
00:23:59,980 --> 00:23:58,759
enormous significance doing I don't that

650
00:24:01,240 --> 00:23:59,990
point I won't have another couple of

651
00:24:02,649 --> 00:24:01,250
glasses of bourbon to get into movie

652
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:02,659
yeah well I think it needs a lot more

653
00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:04,610
than bourbon to I start to get that sort

654
00:24:09,460 --> 00:24:06,710
of movement happening well you know look

655
00:24:11,710 --> 00:24:09,470
I'm always when I look at traffic i see

656
00:24:13,539 --> 00:24:11,720
i see that sells going down blood

657
00:24:15,730 --> 00:24:13,549
vessels but but you know that that's

658
00:24:17,889 --> 00:24:15,740
just that's just physics yeah if you

659
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:17,899
want to get from A to B the shortest

660
00:24:21,700 --> 00:24:19,690
route is sort of right via some sort of

661
00:24:24,039 --> 00:24:21,710
track like cows

662
00:24:25,330 --> 00:24:24,049
walk down tracks and the more couching

663
00:24:26,769 --> 00:24:25,340
it all the more cars you get the bigger

664
00:24:28,690 --> 00:24:26,779
thing at Abby is gonna be like arteries

665
00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:28,700
and capillaries natural it's science

666
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:32,480
yeah but it's also god I'm on ham inside

667
00:24:36,820 --> 00:24:33,890
at this stage I'm thinking yes

668
00:24:39,130 --> 00:24:36,830
definitely oh oh four wheels four legs

669
00:24:41,980 --> 00:24:39,140
holy jesus the thing that really worries

670
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:41,990
me is that a year from now this plan is

671
00:24:45,789 --> 00:24:44,090
going to win the templeton prize which

672
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:45,799
is a million dollars us but for the

673
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:47,690
combination religion and science they

674
00:24:50,830 --> 00:24:49,010
will give it to him my face I'll give it

675
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:50,840
to him and we won't be laughing then he

676
00:24:54,399 --> 00:24:52,730
feasted together that's right will you

677
00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:54,409
be here we bashed his door down so I get

678
00:24:57,130 --> 00:24:55,520
invited to all the parties you'll be

679
00:25:00,310 --> 00:24:57,140
going to actually got invited to a party

680
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:00,320
just recently which intrigued me some

681
00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:01,730
years ago there's a book that came out

682
00:25:06,250 --> 00:25:03,529
called the scum manifesto by a woman

683
00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:06,260
named Valerie Solanas hmm okay and she

684
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:08,000
was one of andy warhol's hang it on

685
00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:10,250
mm-hmm the scam was for the Society for

686
00:25:15,010 --> 00:25:13,370
cutting up men ah so this is just a

687
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:15,020
little bit nuts and apparently Andy said

688
00:25:17,950 --> 00:25:16,490
something bad about a book so she tried

689
00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:17,960
to murder and she stabbed is that right

690
00:25:21,730 --> 00:25:20,000
well apparently I was invited just

691
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:21,740
recently because i have mentioned this

692
00:25:25,149 --> 00:25:23,090
book on my website she's playing

693
00:25:28,389 --> 00:25:25,159
catch-up and i was invited to the launch

694
00:25:31,299 --> 00:25:28,399
in London of the Arabic version of this

695
00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:31,309
book but like the Tate Gallery are

696
00:25:34,810 --> 00:25:33,710
having a Warhol retrospective mm-hmm and

697
00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:34,820
those people decided to have their own

698
00:25:39,789 --> 00:25:37,520
party in the middle of it my middle of

699
00:25:41,620 --> 00:25:39,799
the major launch I have this book and

700
00:25:43,180 --> 00:25:41,630
they emailed me and asked me what I like

701
00:25:44,830 --> 00:25:43,190
to come who I think they've got plans

702
00:25:46,149 --> 00:25:44,840
for you well they only gave me 24 hours

703
00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:46,159
notice I would have had to actually run

704
00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:47,840
to the airport and just if the cuates

705
00:25:51,430 --> 00:25:49,520
might have been ready to go on a slider

706
00:25:52,750 --> 00:25:51,440
new in some favors well is he at the

707
00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:52,760
Apple I asked him to give me more notice

708
00:25:57,340 --> 00:25:55,279
next on mmm which of course I will of

709
00:25:58,810 --> 00:25:57,350
course personas lots of lots of loonies

710
00:26:01,180 --> 00:25:58,820
out there and of course you can find out

711
00:26:04,060 --> 00:26:01,190
about these loonies one on on Peters

712
00:26:06,639 --> 00:26:04,070
very own website ratbags calm ratbags

713
00:26:08,590 --> 00:26:06,649
calm very easy ratbags calm and of

714
00:26:12,100 --> 00:26:08,600
course the skeptics official Australian

715
00:26:16,810 --> 00:26:12,110
skeptics website which is skeptics sk EP

716
00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:16,820
t ICS skeptics dot-com dot hey you and

717
00:26:19,659 --> 00:26:18,049
there's a lot of stuff on there there's

718
00:26:20,919 --> 00:26:19,669
an enormous amount of stuff on me a lot

719
00:26:22,269 --> 00:26:20,929
of funny stuff on your such I was just

720
00:26:24,639 --> 00:26:22,279
having a bit of a look at for there are

721
00:26:26,919 --> 00:26:24,649
a lot of loonies out there there there

722
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:26,929
is no shortage no shortage but we gotta

723
00:26:31,149 --> 00:26:28,250
stay clear of them because we're trying

724
00:26:32,919 --> 00:26:31,159
to get through this life in some form of

725
00:26:34,210 --> 00:26:32,929
sanity and try and survive all the

726
00:26:37,149 --> 00:26:34,220
ridiculous things are having like

727
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:37,159
ores and diseases and crime and all that

728
00:26:39,850 --> 00:26:38,330
sort of stuff well maybe we don't have

729
00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:39,860
to i'm a nice feature to cite this week

730
00:26:43,210 --> 00:26:41,600
where these people are working on people

731
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:43,220
becoming transhuman so that we can

732
00:26:48,250 --> 00:26:45,049
actually evolved and and go beyond being

733
00:26:49,570 --> 00:26:48,260
human and live forever and plus oh I

734
00:26:50,980 --> 00:26:49,580
don't need it because I've got Alex

735
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:50,990
choosing mortality rings and they'll

736
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:53,120
keep me alive for it I then I've got a

737
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:54,890
bunch of crystals in the pocket and

738
00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:56,690
everything and a rabbit's foot in my

739
00:27:01,390 --> 00:26:58,400
other pocket and it's all happening for

740
00:27:04,690 --> 00:27:01,400
us yes well thank you Peter thanks for

741
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:04,700
coming in today Peter the lone skip

742
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:06,530
tickets it's very firmly in the

743
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:08,720
skeptical world today but will probably

744
00:27:11,620 --> 00:27:10,159
get Richard and maybe the couple of

745
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:11,630
girls back next week as well for another

746
00:27:15,190 --> 00:27:13,370
skeptic tank thanks for being here this

747
00:27:17,649 --> 00:27:15,200
is Stefan got a couple of songs to go

748
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:17,659
before I close up got a fun dude this

749
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:19,850
little song from scandalous make me

750
00:27:23,770 --> 00:27:21,530
crazy good name and very appropriate

751
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:23,780
scandalous lots of scandals in the world

752
00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:29,450
of skepticism they give it this is a new

753
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:32,720
podcast alert from Scopes Monkey choir

754
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755
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756
00:27:45,930 --> 00:27:42,559
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757
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758
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759
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760
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761
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studies marvel at history and nibble on

762
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763
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764
00:28:06,220 --> 00:28:03,500
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765
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766
00:28:19,629 --> 00:28:17,019
and now here's some news today news that

767
00:28:22,149 --> 00:28:19,639
come to us from our good friends at

768
00:28:24,580 --> 00:28:22,159
Victoria in Victoria the Victorian

769
00:28:28,019 --> 00:28:24,590
skeptics and on their website which is

770
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:28,029
HTTP colon slash slash Vic skeptics

771
00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:32,320
wordpress com and we find the following

772
00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:36,289
TGA calls on Power Balance to withdraw

773
00:28:42,099 --> 00:28:39,919
claims and advertising the promoters of

774
00:28:44,830 --> 00:28:42,109
the power balance wristbands are in

775
00:28:49,060 --> 00:28:44,840
trouble again this time the Australian

776
00:28:52,419 --> 00:28:49,070
Therapeutic Goods Administration TGA has

777
00:28:55,119 --> 00:28:52,429
ruled against them in Part B decision

778
00:28:57,279 --> 00:28:55,129
says in reaching this conclusion the

779
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:57,289
panel noted that the claims made in the

780
00:29:01,930 --> 00:28:59,840
advertisements were extraordinary to

781
00:29:04,149 --> 00:29:01,940
such a degree that no reasonable

782
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:04,159
retailer could publish them on the basis

783
00:29:08,590 --> 00:29:06,529
of assurance from the product sponsor

784
00:29:11,259 --> 00:29:08,600
without requesting evidence that such

785
00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:11,269
claims could lawfully be made about the

786
00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:14,960
product now I won't read the whole

787
00:29:20,529 --> 00:29:18,289
report to you I'll let you do that

788
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:20,539
yourself by going to add website the Vic

789
00:29:26,619 --> 00:29:23,570
skeptics top wordpress com but what I

790
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:26,629
will do is I will read the retraction

791
00:29:32,669 --> 00:29:29,570
that power band are required to publish

792
00:29:35,950 --> 00:29:32,679
on their website it reads as follows

793
00:29:39,220 --> 00:29:35,960
retraction an advertisement for power

794
00:29:41,289 --> 00:29:39,230
balance wristbands which we published on

795
00:29:43,470 --> 00:29:41,299
this website should not have been

796
00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:43,480
published in the advertisement we

797
00:29:47,979 --> 00:29:45,710
unlawfully made claims that the

798
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:47,989
wristband products had therapeutic

799
00:29:52,930 --> 00:29:50,710
effects or effects on the human body

800
00:29:55,389 --> 00:29:52,940
including claims about the body's

801
00:29:59,739 --> 00:29:55,399
electrical balance and improving

802
00:30:03,930 --> 00:29:59,749
synaptic response brain function muscle

803
00:30:07,299 --> 00:30:03,940
response stamina oxygen uptake recovery

804
00:30:09,399 --> 00:30:07,309
flexibility and gravitational balance a

805
00:30:11,470 --> 00:30:09,409
complaint about the advertisement was

806
00:30:14,649 --> 00:30:11,480
recently upheld by the complaints

807
00:30:17,499 --> 00:30:14,659
resolution panel we provided no evidence

808
00:30:20,739 --> 00:30:17,509
to support any of the claims we made and

809
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:20,749
no indication that such evidence exists

810
00:30:26,420 --> 00:30:23,250
the panel found that the claims were

811
00:30:28,660 --> 00:30:26,430
full misleading and unverified and

812
00:30:31,490 --> 00:30:28,670
breached the therapeutics Goods

813
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:31,500
advertising code the panel therefore

814
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:33,890
request that we publish this retraction

815
00:30:41,470 --> 00:30:36,210
the full text of the panel's

816
00:30:48,170 --> 00:30:41,480
determination can be found at wwt GA CRP

817
00:30:50,930 --> 00:30:48,180
com au / complaints now let me put it

818
00:30:54,380 --> 00:30:50,940
this way the it says they're the panel

819
00:30:58,340 --> 00:30:54,390
therefore requested that the that we

820
00:31:01,520 --> 00:30:58,350
publishes retraction lense we will see

821
00:31:04,820 --> 00:31:01,530
if power balance and some other websites

822
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:04,830
actually do what the TGA required them

823
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:07,110
to do and publish this retraction as a

824
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:09,330
good bet they simply will ignore it

825
00:31:14,570 --> 00:31:12,000
which is the has been the case in the

826
00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:14,580
past look I advise everybody to go to

827
00:31:18,650 --> 00:31:16,710
that website and read for yourself the

828
00:31:20,210 --> 00:31:18,660
complete decision from the Therapeutic

829
00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:20,220
Goods Administration which is available

830
00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:24,240
as a PDF but oh boy this comes on top of

831
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:26,310
the shonky award for power balance from

832
00:31:32,930 --> 00:31:29,010
the the choice magazine now we've got

833
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:32,940
this TGA ruling I noticed that in Europe

834
00:31:38,750 --> 00:31:37,170
they've been fined 15 thousand euros for

835
00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:38,760
making false and misleading claims

836
00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:42,110
what's 15 thousand euros to them though

837
00:31:47,210 --> 00:31:44,910
so maybe the rod is setting in against

838
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:47,220
power balance and hot band and he can

839
00:31:52,460 --> 00:31:49,890
band and all these holographic miracle

840
00:31:55,670 --> 00:31:52,470
bands that simply can't live up to their

841
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:55,680
wonderfully fanciful claims let's not

842
00:31:59,450 --> 00:31:57,690
drop this folks let's keep pushing this

843
00:32:02,210 --> 00:31:59,460
because not only are they selling a

844
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:02,220
device which clearly doesn't work but

845
00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:04,890
along the way they're abusing science

846
00:32:09,770 --> 00:32:07,200
and it's up to all of us to stop people

847
00:32:12,740 --> 00:32:09,780
doing that abusing what we love so much

848
00:32:14,510 --> 00:32:12,750
so that's that's the news about power

849
00:32:16,370 --> 00:32:14,520
balance I'm happily wearing my placebo

850
00:32:19,490 --> 00:32:16,380
band right now in fact I'm wearing three

851
00:32:25,060 --> 00:32:19,500
of them clear black and red ah what a

852
00:32:30,350 --> 00:32:27,860
the views expressed on wants to talk

853
00:32:31,820 --> 00:32:30,360
podcast do not necessarily reflect the

854
00:32:34,490 --> 00:32:31,830
opinions of the University of Alberta

855
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:34,500
the Students Union or CJ s our

856
00:32:37,460 --> 00:32:36,240
University of Western Australia the

857
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:37,470
University of New South Wales Sydney

858
00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:38,490
University University of Melbourne

859
00:32:40,940 --> 00:32:39,809
University of South Australia University

860
00:32:42,049 --> 00:32:40,950
bed mache the university yourself with

861
00:32:43,460 --> 00:32:42,059
University of hard knocks hopping in

862
00:32:48,889 --> 00:32:43,470
fast cars fast women or Benjamin

863
00:32:55,009 --> 00:32:52,129
hi I'm leeching Robin and welcome to yet

864
00:32:56,209 --> 00:32:55,019
another edition of lifestyles are there

865
00:32:59,629 --> 00:32:56,219
not quite parsec award-winning

866
00:33:02,389 --> 00:32:59,639
podcasters this week the show reports on

867
00:33:06,469 --> 00:33:02,399
the controversial monster tour podcaster

868
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:06,479
Benjamin Radford the man the mystery and

869
00:33:10,609 --> 00:33:08,129
the room is about him writhing half

870
00:33:14,329 --> 00:33:10,619
naked on a ball of asiatic mirrors with

871
00:33:17,719 --> 00:33:14,339
a fetch max lag oh we find out the facts

872
00:33:20,749 --> 00:33:17,729
about his humble origins more or less

873
00:33:22,339 --> 00:33:20,759
out of the blue in 1995 Puerto Rico that

874
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:22,349
looks like something that might be a

875
00:33:27,249 --> 00:33:25,049
combination the man in the world we

876
00:33:31,129 --> 00:33:27,259
uncover details about his education

877
00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:31,139
especially his Spanish influences I

878
00:33:36,469 --> 00:33:33,679
turned into a worm how his passion for

879
00:33:38,539 --> 00:33:36,479
cryptozoology started a where worm that

880
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:38,549
would be cool and his resulting career

881
00:33:44,659 --> 00:33:42,330
as a writer and filmmaker the result of

882
00:33:46,489 --> 00:33:44,669
top-secret US government genetic

883
00:33:49,579 --> 00:33:46,499
experiments sort of like the

884
00:33:52,339 --> 00:33:49,589
Frankenstein element to it and the truth

885
00:33:55,339 --> 00:33:52,349
behind the rumors of Benjamin Radford

886
00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:55,349
and a Hollywood star Zeb initiated on

887
00:34:01,249 --> 00:33:59,039
Toros yes that one yeah we even feature

888
00:34:04,249 --> 00:34:01,259
an exclusive as to what happened to

889
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:04,259
Benjamin radford's hair sure I mean it's

890
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:06,330
it's sort of like what is the Bigfoot of

891
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:07,769
course you're talking about something

892
00:34:11,089 --> 00:34:09,690
that that's never been proven to exist

893
00:34:13,279 --> 00:34:11,099
and so everybody has their own

894
00:34:16,279 --> 00:34:13,289
particular take on it which is why you

895
00:34:18,099 --> 00:34:16,289
should tune in this week to lifestyles

896
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:18,109
or the not quite parsec award-winning

897
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:22,529
podcasters Benjamin Radford the man the

898
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:32,690
you can find out the facts about monster

899
00:34:46,070 --> 00:34:37,910
talk at ww skeptic calm ford / podcasts

900
00:34:48,770 --> 00:34:46,080
forward slash monster talk keep on

901
00:34:51,110 --> 00:34:48,780
rockin bruce springsteen a man bought in

902
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:51,120
the USA the man that was rock and roll

903
00:34:57,410 --> 00:34:52,800
I've seen the future of rock and roll

904
00:34:58,910 --> 00:34:57,420
and it is Bruce Springsteen Oh actually

905
00:35:01,490 --> 00:34:58,920
that was the past hello Richard hey

906
00:35:04,070 --> 00:35:01,500
Stephanie I'm very very good indeed yes

907
00:35:06,170 --> 00:35:04,080
welcome to of course as we might inform

908
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:06,180
the listeners welcome to the skeptic

909
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:08,850
tank skeptic tank on again here we are

910
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:10,410
this wonderful little Arthur's that

911
00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:12,090
being anzac day as well so it's been

912
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:13,760
interesting for us it's a bit of a a

913
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:17,250
melancholy mood around around a little

914
00:35:22,580 --> 00:35:19,050
not oh yes and no I mean it's a big

915
00:35:24,620 --> 00:35:22,590
celebration of them heroism heroism but

916
00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:24,630
I saw some signs in the city saying

917
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:27,260
something like remembering our past and

918
00:35:31,310 --> 00:35:29,250
respecting our tradition something like

919
00:35:33,230 --> 00:35:31,320
that yeah but for them for the

920
00:35:34,550 --> 00:35:33,240
ex-servicemen it's a great day because

921
00:35:36,170 --> 00:35:34,560
they get together into each other again

922
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:36,180
and all the memories is that with it I

923
00:35:40,820 --> 00:35:38,010
think it's a little bit therapeutic I

924
00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:40,830
think because really remembering the

925
00:35:44,510 --> 00:35:42,480
fact that the world used to just go

926
00:35:45,950 --> 00:35:44,520
around murdering one another based on

927
00:35:48,110 --> 00:35:45,960
race which is basically what it was

928
00:35:50,060 --> 00:35:48,120
about the Yellow Peril and all that sort

929
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:50,070
of stuff well sadly it happens a lot

930
00:35:55,130 --> 00:35:51,690
still happens to lie still happens now

931
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:55,140
okay race is always a good excuse

932
00:36:00,680 --> 00:35:57,930
religion is probably the biggest excuse

933
00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:00,690
over me as I would expect excuse but the

934
00:36:04,490 --> 00:36:02,670
real reason is usually economic of

935
00:36:07,490 --> 00:36:04,500
course well whatever the reason is it

936
00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:07,500
boils down to where us and you you are

937
00:36:12,530 --> 00:36:10,710
you there demon eyes and we are better

938
00:36:15,110 --> 00:36:12,540
demonize the other guy and then it's

939
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:15,120
okay to murder them it's like one of the

940
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:17,760
theories of why humans invented gods and

941
00:36:23,090 --> 00:36:20,010
deities and this sort of thing yeah was

942
00:36:25,490 --> 00:36:23,100
that your particular little group of

943
00:36:27,410 --> 00:36:25,500
humans were obviously the best yeah

944
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:27,420
that's a question because god said so

945
00:36:32,510 --> 00:36:29,370
and you know you've been to God well I

946
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:32,520
neither this and any other tribes or

947
00:36:37,250 --> 00:36:34,560
groups of people you meet are obviously

948
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:37,260
inferior that has to be the case and if

949
00:36:40,329 --> 00:36:39,450
anyone's superior here well they must be

950
00:36:43,269 --> 00:36:40,339
a god

951
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:43,279
yeah absolutely they must be the yeah

952
00:36:46,479 --> 00:36:45,049
that's just by simple so what are we

953
00:36:48,279 --> 00:36:46,489
going to talk about today in the skeptic

954
00:36:50,109 --> 00:36:48,289
town mr. Richardson out on the

955
00:36:51,819 --> 00:36:50,119
Australian skeptics I thought we got off

956
00:36:54,459 --> 00:36:51,829
to a good start of the month we did you

957
00:36:56,739 --> 00:36:54,469
can add murder I think it legalized and

958
00:36:58,779 --> 00:36:56,749
actually legitimize legal murder because

959
00:37:00,759 --> 00:36:58,789
the law actually says that it's okay to

960
00:37:02,469 --> 00:37:00,769
kill in a war so we have to do is create

961
00:37:04,749 --> 00:37:02,479
a state of war then he can kill people

962
00:37:06,789 --> 00:37:04,759
doing now this is another argument all

963
00:37:10,450 --> 00:37:06,799
together it's the whole boy that's a

964
00:37:12,370 --> 00:37:10,460
whole love attention let's go to another

965
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:12,380
area let's sort of go through our little

966
00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:14,089
time warps now and zap through the

967
00:37:18,999 --> 00:37:15,710
portals of that you can do this better

968
00:37:21,819 --> 00:37:19,009
than me infinite dimension we're going

969
00:37:23,950 --> 00:37:21,829
to talk more about one of the things

970
00:37:26,289 --> 00:37:23,960
that a lot of skeptics really enjoy

971
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:26,299
which is good science fiction science

972
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:30,410
fiction yes indeed yeah what now can you

973
00:37:34,930 --> 00:37:32,450
tell me why it is that the skeptics do

974
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:34,940
enjoy science fiction when it is yeah

975
00:37:41,319 --> 00:37:39,650
it's fiction well as long as it as long

976
00:37:43,870 --> 00:37:41,329
as it's good science fiction I mean it's

977
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:43,880
our I go I mean why do people enjoy good

978
00:37:50,289 --> 00:37:47,119
anything I mean if it's let's talk about

979
00:37:51,969 --> 00:37:50,299
a TV show a science fiction TV show just

980
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:51,979
there anyone will do it doesn't matter

981
00:37:55,539 --> 00:37:53,839
but the half blood is good and the

982
00:37:57,579 --> 00:37:55,549
characters are good and it's well acted

983
00:37:58,839 --> 00:37:57,589
well edited like like the oh yes

984
00:38:00,700 --> 00:37:58,849
everything's that bring varying plague

985
00:38:02,769 --> 00:38:00,710
red dwarf perhaps that's that's exactly

986
00:38:05,249 --> 00:38:02,779
and that's funny tales about it but I

987
00:38:07,749 --> 00:38:05,259
think would it be right for me to to

988
00:38:09,069 --> 00:38:07,759
presume that the reason why the skeptics

989
00:38:11,529 --> 00:38:09,079
a lot of skeptics like science fiction

990
00:38:13,359 --> 00:38:11,539
is because it is actually an extension

991
00:38:15,459 --> 00:38:13,369
of science because what they're saying

992
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:15,469
is how science could develop in the

993
00:38:19,779 --> 00:38:17,450
future oh yes I mean there's a lot of

994
00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:19,789
shows out there Star Trek severely a

995
00:38:25,450 --> 00:38:22,160
very popular series set hundreds of

996
00:38:27,609 --> 00:38:25,460
years in the future sort of saying well

997
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:27,619
now we use this little squiggly thing

998
00:38:31,660 --> 00:38:29,599
here and we can zap over this and papas

999
00:38:33,190 --> 00:38:31,670
through the the thing oh yeah and but

1000
00:38:35,140 --> 00:38:33,200
did not that Gene Roddenberry the

1001
00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:35,150
creator of Star Trek I actually consult

1002
00:38:38,259 --> 00:38:37,369
with a lot of physicists and scientists

1003
00:38:39,999 --> 00:38:38,269
to actually come up with some of the

1004
00:38:42,759 --> 00:38:40,009
ideas for the show I think he did he

1005
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:42,769
also he also hoodwinked a lot of people

1006
00:38:47,469 --> 00:38:44,450
running around with this incredible

1007
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:47,479
equation to the network executive sanke

1008
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:49,130
the possibility of life on other planets

1009
00:38:51,610 --> 00:38:51,170
is this formula here tend to the PI a

1010
00:38:54,460 --> 00:38:51,620
square

1011
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:54,470
he made it up he made it up really nice

1012
00:38:58,060 --> 00:38:55,970
to make people think that if he was an

1013
00:38:59,710 --> 00:38:58,070
authority but yes that's right um all

1014
00:39:02,260 --> 00:38:59,720
that well that's something to skip all

1015
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:02,270
I'm down half there can i oh let's go g

1016
00:39:05,230 --> 00:39:03,530
in waterbury we're going to bring you

1017
00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:05,240
back from the dead I'm gonna kill them

1018
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:08,480
again who I go but that's a great

1019
00:39:11,590 --> 00:39:10,160
example of a show that got off the

1020
00:39:13,420 --> 00:39:11,600
ground it really got off the ground

1021
00:39:16,510 --> 00:39:13,430
because they pitched it to the network's

1022
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:16,520
as a Western in place oh that's right

1023
00:39:22,090 --> 00:39:19,250
lots of the hero and the shooter must

1024
00:39:24,730 --> 00:39:22,100
utilize riding out just in space yeah

1025
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:24,740
right of it also the time though in Star

1026
00:39:29,830 --> 00:39:27,890
Trek came out if space was a very very

1027
00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:29,840
very interesting thing because there was

1028
00:39:33,820 --> 00:39:31,760
a lot of like the Sputnik and alerts oh

1029
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:33,830
yeah mid-sixties absolutely it was in

1030
00:39:38,410 --> 00:39:36,290
the around the time of the big space

1031
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:38,420
race because of our satellites and all

1032
00:39:42,730 --> 00:39:39,890
everyone gets a moon and all the rest

1033
00:39:45,450 --> 00:39:42,740
but again that's why do a lot of

1034
00:39:48,340 --> 00:39:45,460
skeptics like science fiction well again

1035
00:39:49,510 --> 00:39:48,350
you could put up a movie a science

1036
00:39:51,940 --> 00:39:49,520
fiction movie which is just rubbish

1037
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:51,950
anyway nobody likes it of course not

1038
00:39:56,290 --> 00:39:53,930
it's a rubbish yeah a good a good all

1039
00:39:57,790 --> 00:39:56,300
good old-fashioned tail is always good

1040
00:40:00,070 --> 00:39:57,800
to see so it always good to see and if

1041
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:00,080
its cloak in this science-fiction sort

1042
00:40:04,300 --> 00:40:02,210
of theme we'll all right wait a little

1043
00:40:05,740 --> 00:40:04,310
bit example we enjoy it yeah well I must

1044
00:40:07,870 --> 00:40:05,750
have been I enjoy science fiction too

1045
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:07,880
and if anyone out there enjoy science

1046
00:40:11,830 --> 00:40:09,290
fiction you might like to get into the

1047
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:11,840
chat room and nearly been dotnet more

1048
00:40:16,180 --> 00:40:14,690
stuff chat and this couple skeptics in

1049
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:16,190
there the money them yeah yeah actually

1050
00:40:20,260 --> 00:40:18,770
there's one skeptic and that one auntie

1051
00:40:22,210 --> 00:40:20,270
skeptic they're fighting it out like

1052
00:40:24,490 --> 00:40:22,220
it's like a while moist movie they're

1053
00:40:26,380 --> 00:40:24,500
punching each other every shooting each

1054
00:40:29,740 --> 00:40:26,390
other I money is in control we've got

1055
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:29,750
somebody some weird sort of PB 8 to have

1056
00:40:34,780 --> 00:40:32,330
no idea what maybe I the fricassee he

1057
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:34,790
must be free in hawthorne selves PB 82

1058
00:40:39,790 --> 00:40:37,910
years who would not be a freak and some

1059
00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:39,800
poor girl called Chrissy he just called

1060
00:40:43,540 --> 00:40:41,240
you a geek she's trying to defend

1061
00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:43,550
herself yeah I think I was a geek uh he

1062
00:40:48,460 --> 00:40:47,030
got a point there Chrissy I am well I'm

1063
00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:48,470
gonna play a little song we're gonna

1064
00:40:52,210 --> 00:40:49,520
come back and I've got something very

1065
00:40:55,860 --> 00:40:52,220
special for the skeptic tank is I

1066
00:40:58,720 --> 00:40:55,870
actually met in person mr. Chewbacca

1067
00:41:01,180 --> 00:40:58,730
himself really yet that the guy who

1068
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:01,190
played you back in Star Wars the very

1069
00:41:05,020 --> 00:41:03,170
first one which is actually the third

1070
00:41:06,849 --> 00:41:05,030
forth before thought I was the first one

1071
00:41:09,069 --> 00:41:06,859
was brought back something and I Mecca

1072
00:41:11,170 --> 00:41:09,079
to back at her looky looky the really

1073
00:41:13,420 --> 00:41:11,180
tall hairy thing yet and I'll let him

1074
00:41:14,650 --> 00:41:13,430
win so he didn't rip my arms off but

1075
00:41:17,170 --> 00:41:14,660
I've got an interview with him coming up

1076
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:17,180
soon great um so Richard I'm gonna play

1077
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:18,770
another song okay then we're going to

1078
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:20,089
get into the chatroom and trying to

1079
00:41:23,109 --> 00:41:21,410
hassle some of these people if anybody

1080
00:41:25,299 --> 00:41:23,119
else wants to come on in us just about

1081
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:25,309
science fiction order please do get in

1082
00:41:32,380 --> 00:41:29,200
it and you can even ring us 1 860 7010 1

1083
00:41:34,059 --> 00:41:32,390
860 7010 you may even want to have a

1084
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:34,069
chat about Anzac Day in the whole the

1085
00:41:38,170 --> 00:41:36,770
whole I'm skeptical about war that's not

1086
00:41:41,740 --> 00:41:38,180
that's not gay people think if you have

1087
00:41:43,630 --> 00:41:41,750
any skeptical topics call right in get

1088
00:41:45,730 --> 00:41:43,640
in the chat and i'll do my best to give

1089
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:45,740
you an answer yeehaw the wrong one but

1090
00:41:56,580 --> 00:41:54,840
there we have Brandis copper quite an

1091
00:41:58,560 --> 00:41:56,590
accurate cover to a Phil Collins a song

1092
00:42:00,750 --> 00:41:58,570
another day in paradise a major guilt

1093
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:00,760
trip for Humanity but I don't really

1094
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:02,170
feel guilty about that song because it's

1095
00:42:07,230 --> 00:42:04,690
about a girl who lives in that in a in a

1096
00:42:09,210 --> 00:42:07,240
country I've already quite wealthy

1097
00:42:11,550 --> 00:42:09,220
country going up and begging for money

1098
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:11,560
now obviously her parents have got a lot

1099
00:42:13,950 --> 00:42:12,880
to do with that because so they should

1100
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:13,960
have they should have helped her out

1101
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:14,890
they should have but I shouldn't even

1102
00:42:18,510 --> 00:42:16,330
have that in the first place it's not

1103
00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:18,520
like she's disadvantaged because of any

1104
00:42:21,870 --> 00:42:20,800
yeah war or anything like it's just

1105
00:42:23,850 --> 00:42:21,880
disadvantage because appearance was

1106
00:42:25,950 --> 00:42:23,860
stupid so I don't feel sorry for her at

1107
00:42:27,630 --> 00:42:25,960
all and I don't feel guilty because I've

1108
00:42:29,250 --> 00:42:27,640
done quite well for myself up with

1109
00:42:31,230 --> 00:42:29,260
bloody hard to get where I am today

1110
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:31,240
which is not very far at all but at

1111
00:42:33,780 --> 00:42:32,410
least I'm pray out of it and I'm not

1112
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:33,790
going up to millionaires and asking them

1113
00:42:39,090 --> 00:42:36,730
for money hello and welcome to this for

1114
00:42:40,890 --> 00:42:39,100
money look yeah look I'm poorer than a

1115
00:42:42,660 --> 00:42:40,900
lot of millionaires so hey millionaires

1116
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:42,670
give me some money will ya because I

1117
00:42:46,020 --> 00:42:44,650
want to be really really rich hey this

1118
00:42:49,410 --> 00:42:46,030
is good attitude I like it's good isn't

1119
00:42:50,970 --> 00:42:49,420
it good afternoon as a looseness doesn't

1120
00:42:53,220 --> 00:42:50,980
work good afternoon listeners and

1121
00:42:55,380 --> 00:42:53,230
welcome to this gift tick tank and

1122
00:42:57,180 --> 00:42:55,390
welcome Richard long into the studio yes

1123
00:42:58,260 --> 00:42:57,190
I'm still here oh that's wonderful we

1124
00:43:02,400 --> 00:42:58,270
were talking a little bit earlier about

1125
00:43:05,250 --> 00:43:02,410
about science fiction again and I we

1126
00:43:07,770 --> 00:43:05,260
actually myself and Richard both the

1127
00:43:10,050 --> 00:43:07,780
skeptic tank itself went to the the

1128
00:43:12,030 --> 00:43:10,060
supernova science fiction we did I must

1129
00:43:13,890 --> 00:43:12,040
admit yes I do know about your interview

1130
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:13,900
with the walkie how that's right yes

1131
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:16,240
indeed so I so what we did we actually

1132
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:18,610
we went there just to meet mr. wookie

1133
00:43:23,070 --> 00:43:21,130
himself I'm going to play the interview

1134
00:43:26,250 --> 00:43:23,080
now for all those people who just love

1135
00:43:29,490 --> 00:43:26,260
Chewbacca which was a subliminal tobacco

1136
00:43:31,170 --> 00:43:29,500
company advertising thing to Becca you

1137
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:31,180
know that was advertising chewing gum

1138
00:43:35,310 --> 00:43:33,130
musta to back up no chewing backpack

1139
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:35,320
tobacco chew Becca this was all about

1140
00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:37,810
very subliminal but at work because ever

1141
00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:39,760
since Star Wars came out a teenage

1142
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:41,950
smoking and tobacco chewing especially

1143
00:43:47,730 --> 00:43:44,770
between the image i believe it yes in

1144
00:43:50,190 --> 00:43:47,740
the step of america rocking it up here

1145
00:43:53,310 --> 00:43:50,200
we go this is my interview with gia

1146
00:43:57,390 --> 00:43:53,320
Beckett to like get the mouse happening

1147
00:43:59,280 --> 00:43:57,400
let's go i'm here with peter mayhew i'll

1148
00:44:00,819 --> 00:43:59,290
have to utter go down because i'm gonna

1149
00:44:03,130 --> 00:44:00,829
worship this man

1150
00:44:05,410 --> 00:44:03,140
this is to backing himself in the flesh

1151
00:44:08,499 --> 00:44:05,420
here here at the scientific infection

1152
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:08,509
have you found it so funny today we had

1153
00:44:13,809 --> 00:44:10,729
a ball it's been great the fans have

1154
00:44:16,809 --> 00:44:13,819
been good all over the weekend today is

1155
00:44:18,549 --> 00:44:16,819
as good as yesterday so I mean fun you

1156
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:18,559
know obviously have been extremely

1157
00:44:26,890 --> 00:44:23,569
popular at what we call a an exhibition

1158
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:26,900
yeah coming to make exhibition sci-fi

1159
00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:29,930
exposition yeah yeah that's what we're

1160
00:44:35,140 --> 00:44:32,209
here for do you do these things all

1161
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:35,150
around the world mainly mistakes but we

1162
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:37,609
have been to Japan and all over Europe

1163
00:44:41,650 --> 00:44:40,130
how's it feel to be like such a

1164
00:44:45,539 --> 00:44:41,660
legendary character in the in the

1165
00:44:48,849 --> 00:44:45,549
Hollywood movie scheme of things um I

1166
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:48,859
don't consider myself I consider myself

1167
00:45:00,329 --> 00:44:54,890
a lucky actor to be able to have all

1168
00:45:06,930 --> 00:45:03,749
not thrust upon me but it's there and

1169
00:45:09,690 --> 00:45:06,940
you've got to accept it for what it is

1170
00:45:12,329 --> 00:45:09,700
and just go on with on with your life

1171
00:45:14,579 --> 00:45:12,339
it's well especially its plight it's

1172
00:45:16,349 --> 00:45:14,589
giving you a that's your mission in life

1173
00:45:18,359 --> 00:45:16,359
you are now to back on you and you've

1174
00:45:22,709 --> 00:45:18,369
gotta accept that mission oh yeah I

1175
00:45:25,259 --> 00:45:22,719
accept it and also i know that if i

1176
00:45:29,249 --> 00:45:25,269
don't do anything else i will go down in

1177
00:45:33,390 --> 00:45:29,259
the annals of movie history as as chewy

1178
00:45:36,299 --> 00:45:33,400
as I know no doubt about that if one of

1179
00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:36,309
those things that you are you either you

1180
00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:37,599
either accept it or you'll walk away

1181
00:45:42,329 --> 00:45:40,089
from the business okay and speak of

1182
00:45:43,709 --> 00:45:42,339
doing doing other things of course that

1183
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:43,719
isn't the last thing you've ever done

1184
00:45:51,709 --> 00:45:46,210
what how's it being the last 20 25 years

1185
00:45:56,370 --> 00:45:51,719
now 25 years I'm up and down it has

1186
00:45:59,670 --> 00:45:56,380
there are have been times when there are

1187
00:46:04,890 --> 00:45:59,680
be no movies and no conventions but over

1188
00:46:07,170 --> 00:46:04,900
the last 10 years since 25 since the

1189
00:46:10,349 --> 00:46:07,180
universe all the anniversary for special

1190
00:46:12,269 --> 00:46:10,359
expression editions we've been busy and

1191
00:46:14,190 --> 00:46:12,279
I guess it's mean it's very hard to go

1192
00:46:16,650 --> 00:46:14,200
you've gone as high as you can it's very

1193
00:46:18,989 --> 00:46:16,660
hard to go higher they're not than a

1194
00:46:21,779 --> 00:46:18,999
major character in a Star Wars movie it

1195
00:46:23,609 --> 00:46:21,789
feels like a lot of guys who get become

1196
00:46:25,410 --> 00:46:23,619
rock stars when they're 19 or something

1197
00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:25,420
it's like where do you go from there I

1198
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:30,400
don't know I just want to do as much as

1199
00:46:38,549 --> 00:46:35,410
I can and enjoy the adulation for as

1200
00:46:41,459 --> 00:46:38,559
long as I can but not get boring if I

1201
00:46:44,099 --> 00:46:41,469
got boring I wouldn't do it that's and

1202
00:46:46,890 --> 00:46:44,109
there's always somewhere someone that

1203
00:46:49,049 --> 00:46:46,900
hasn't heard the stories there's always

1204
00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:49,059
a lot an audience and if you could make

1205
00:46:54,059 --> 00:46:51,910
someone laugh it's great I guess that's

1206
00:46:56,249 --> 00:46:54,069
a big part of it with you actually by

1207
00:46:57,690 --> 00:46:56,259
taking on the role that you've got you

1208
00:47:00,450 --> 00:46:57,700
are making a lot of contact with a lot

1209
00:47:02,490 --> 00:47:00,460
of people making people happy yeah

1210
00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:02,500
you only go around here to go we were

1211
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:03,609
talking to people before and they were

1212
00:47:07,589 --> 00:47:06,130
just so ecstatic that you're here and

1213
00:47:08,910 --> 00:47:07,599
that they've getting a chance to meet

1214
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:08,920
you so I think that that's a good thing

1215
00:47:14,609 --> 00:47:11,890
we you know we always know wherever we

1216
00:47:18,450 --> 00:47:14,619
go we have a regular base of friends

1217
00:47:22,620 --> 00:47:18,460
where he States Europe and Japan they

1218
00:47:25,230 --> 00:47:22,630
absolutely go crazy it's wonderful but I

1219
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:25,240
bet they did you know the little guys go

1220
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:27,490
crazy over a big guy like I'd nuts over

1221
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:29,170
everything average family crazy they

1222
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:31,930
crack their crazy people anyway so you

1223
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:34,530
know as I say it's a wonderful feeling

1224
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:37,450
that know that wherever you going though

1225
00:47:42,750 --> 00:47:40,570
Yuri welcome its fabrication wonderful

1226
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:42,760
well Thank You Chuy it's been wonderful

1227
00:47:50,099 --> 00:47:45,130
talking to you problem you see you later

1228
00:47:53,220 --> 00:47:50,109
oh he was a nice guy he was a very very

1229
00:47:56,609 --> 00:47:53,230
nice guy to all very tall very tall and

1230
00:47:59,010 --> 00:47:56,619
very sort of um uh he looked a little

1231
00:48:01,980 --> 00:47:59,020
bit jaded to me a little bit jaded here

1232
00:48:03,300 --> 00:48:01,990
that long here he had long hair yeah it

1233
00:48:04,829 --> 00:48:03,310
was sort of i didn't want to rub it in

1234
00:48:06,810 --> 00:48:04,839
too much the fact that that was his big

1235
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:06,820
highlight in his life but i guess it was

1236
00:48:12,060 --> 00:48:09,130
really I I guess so but hey that's not

1237
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:12,070
bad it's not bad I was Chewbacca he

1238
00:48:17,579 --> 00:48:14,800
still is I think he'll appear in not

1239
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:17,589
this one I think the Hawks he's in

1240
00:48:22,020 --> 00:48:19,570
another because the character in the

1241
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:22,030
movie is quite old 100 years or 20 years

1242
00:48:27,660 --> 00:48:25,450
oh I say I think he he will be brought

1243
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:27,670
back in in the last movie I'm not sure

1244
00:48:32,820 --> 00:48:30,250
that's unreal well there you go science

1245
00:48:35,329 --> 00:48:32,830
fiction at the coalface right here on

1246
00:48:37,890 --> 00:48:35,339
anything speaking to a Star Wars stuff I

1247
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:37,900
think it was wonderful to get the cash I

1248
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:39,250
was just thinking earlier about why is

1249
00:48:42,780 --> 00:48:41,290
saying that why does a lot of skeptics

1250
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:42,790
like science fiction and this sort of

1251
00:48:48,290 --> 00:48:44,800
thing and it reminded me that a lot of

1252
00:48:51,329 --> 00:48:48,300
people are were inspired to follow

1253
00:48:53,609 --> 00:48:51,339
scientific pursuits by watching science

1254
00:48:57,060 --> 00:48:53,619
fiction with our kids oh yes ending and

1255
00:48:58,650 --> 00:48:57,070
a lot of the Star Trek cast get letters

1256
00:49:01,470 --> 00:48:58,660
and people coming up to them quite often

1257
00:49:04,290 --> 00:49:01,480
saying Oh Leonard Nimoy you know mr.

1258
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:04,300
Spock you inspired me to do this and I'm

1259
00:49:07,620 --> 00:49:05,710
now

1260
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:07,630
yeah absolutely that's pretty buddy good

1261
00:49:11,550 --> 00:49:09,730
yeah they won't be like mr. Spock ah

1262
00:49:16,170 --> 00:49:11,560
here baby you inspired me to get plastic

1263
00:49:18,510 --> 00:49:16,180
surgery on my ears 10 yes um yeah what

1264
00:49:20,099 --> 00:49:18,520
science fiction itself is actually when

1265
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:20,109
you look back a lot of things that we're

1266
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:21,490
doing right now like we are on a radio

1267
00:49:26,010 --> 00:49:23,200
station 20 micro family across the

1268
00:49:28,349 --> 00:49:26,020
planet nitro nected we got all halves of

1269
00:49:29,790 --> 00:49:28,359
a little telephones that's right like

1270
00:49:30,930 --> 00:49:29,800
community walking down the street

1271
00:49:33,140 --> 00:49:30,940
talking to themselves but I've actually

1272
00:49:35,820 --> 00:49:33,150
on the mobile phones as run idiots and

1273
00:49:37,470 --> 00:49:35,830
really that is that is science fiction

1274
00:49:40,530 --> 00:49:37,480
to anyone who wasn't around in this

1275
00:49:44,190 --> 00:49:40,540
century yeah so that I've it is coming

1276
00:49:47,070 --> 00:49:44,200
true yes I than you think and like I

1277
00:49:50,339 --> 00:49:47,080
read a book once called us no crash i

1278
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:50,349
think it was and um yeah yeah apparently

1279
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:52,240
the book was an inspiration for virtual

1280
00:49:57,420 --> 00:49:55,510
vrml yet modeling language for virtual

1281
00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:57,430
reality because the guy had like created

1282
00:50:00,780 --> 00:49:58,720
this future world where everything was

1283
00:50:02,550 --> 00:50:00,790
virtual in cyberspace and a lot of

1284
00:50:04,290 --> 00:50:02,560
hackers and geeks and nerds and freaks

1285
00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:04,300
who getting their program computers

1286
00:50:09,390 --> 00:50:07,119
actually said let's let's do it lemme do

1287
00:50:11,579 --> 00:50:09,400
on this guy created and make these

1288
00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:11,589
avatars and make this other 3d worlds

1289
00:50:15,900 --> 00:50:13,440
and they did it well we're a

1290
00:50:19,099 --> 00:50:15,910
technologically based species at the

1291
00:50:22,050 --> 00:50:19,109
moment the way I saying that three times

1292
00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:22,060
particularly pc that's a wonderful thing

1293
00:50:26,310 --> 00:50:24,310
I'm gonna take another break within the

1294
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:26,320
skeptic tank you step out of the tank

1295
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:27,970
four minutes for a minute or two look at

1296
00:50:34,260 --> 00:50:30,130
the chat room is crazy wash ourselves

1297
00:50:45,780 --> 00:50:34,270
off and i got my cousine catch and we'll

1298
00:50:50,650 --> 00:50:48,340
there's Monster Magnet there with a song

1299
00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:50,660
called heads explode that was inspired

1300
00:50:54,370 --> 00:50:52,640
by a session of the lead singer of

1301
00:50:56,020 --> 00:50:54,380
Monster Magnet standing in front of the

1302
00:50:59,200 --> 00:50:56,030
mirror after shower squeezing pimples

1303
00:51:02,170 --> 00:50:59,210
monster magnet monster magnet attracts

1304
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:02,180
monster saw ah that was it a big magnet

1305
00:51:05,740 --> 00:51:03,530
what are they trying to say that's a

1306
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:05,750
huge magnetizing I'll right no no no no

1307
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:07,040
I think it's one thing you write the

1308
00:51:10,810 --> 00:51:08,720
first times like a babe magnet you know

1309
00:51:13,150 --> 00:51:10,820
hey baby on the babe magnet he's a

1310
00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:13,160
monster magnet if ever he goes monsters

1311
00:51:17,860 --> 00:51:15,110
he's following will stick to it it's a

1312
00:51:19,630 --> 00:51:17,870
way for three yes ah welcome Richard

1313
00:51:22,660 --> 00:51:19,640
again that you skipped again still here

1314
00:51:23,950 --> 00:51:22,670
we plunged back into the tank and we're

1315
00:51:25,330 --> 00:51:23,960
here just chatting away about science

1316
00:51:27,460 --> 00:51:25,340
fiction oh well great traffic alert

1317
00:51:29,620 --> 00:51:27,470
chatting about science fiction you

1318
00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:29,630
remember when in this country anyway

1319
00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:31,280
when I was growing up that one of the

1320
00:51:35,530 --> 00:51:32,960
biggest shows on the TV was of course

1321
00:51:37,420 --> 00:51:35,540
doctor who doctor who loved it I saw a

1322
00:51:38,980 --> 00:51:37,430
guy on the rain today reading a doctor

1323
00:51:42,670 --> 00:51:38,990
who book ah there you go he looked like

1324
00:51:44,230 --> 00:51:42,680
a freak we're bringing you love all

1325
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:44,240
those concepts are throwing at you like

1326
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:46,490
there are ya these time machine the

1327
00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:49,040
TARDIS was bigger on the inside than the

1328
00:51:54,910 --> 00:51:51,920
other side and right concert then it's

1329
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:54,920
actually an actual concept in in physics

1330
00:51:59,350 --> 00:51:57,050
now isn't it like quantum physics London

1331
00:52:02,140 --> 00:51:59,360
physical pain attendance oh that sounds

1332
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good I'll buy that pair but apart from

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that it was it was a great show you know

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it's enjoyable when you're that sort of

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age and I you're very exciting and there

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were robots and lasers Cybermen and

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Daleks and things yeah but some how

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could never ever get downstairs yeah and

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now I they can together here they can

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levitate always happy life but I had

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monsters and they had like little

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devices like the sonic screwdriver do

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you remember that our beautiful thing oh

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yeah that one I think they've got them

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now and most hospitals have a sonic

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screwdriver did it yeah I think they do

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yeah well the doctor how they do it for

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breaking up kidney stones and things

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right here they usual sonic pulses sonic

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pulses breaking he said that was

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inspired by doctor doctor undoubtedly

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00:52:47,470 --> 00:52:45,050
Natalie here we are in the skeptic game

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00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:47,480
gibbering away as we normally do every

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Thursday on it if another question on

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00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:51,200
the on the chat group there I'm just

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having straining to yeah what's the

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00:52:59,410 --> 00:52:57,770
question what's the question yiu skeptic

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00:53:01,359 --> 00:52:59,420
so intelligent well but that's a

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00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:01,369
question that many people try to us now

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there's nothing less haha and i don't

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use any question they were all herbal we

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00:53:08,290 --> 00:53:06,410
need more people in the chat room

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00:53:09,550 --> 00:53:08,300
because yeah the people in there is a

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00:53:11,140 --> 00:53:09,560
gibbering away and acting like idiots

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00:53:13,390 --> 00:53:11,150
with each other I'm talking to each

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00:53:14,530 --> 00:53:13,400
other I think they're threatening to sue

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00:53:17,290 --> 00:53:14,540
each other at the moment it's just

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degenerating into a major major brouhaha

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00:53:21,220 --> 00:53:19,040
but I think one of the important things

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to mention when you're talking about

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science fiction and science fantasy is

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that yes you go along to the movies or

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00:53:30,220 --> 00:53:28,220
you watched on the TV and you sort of

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00:53:31,569 --> 00:53:30,230
put your brain on hold for a while and

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00:53:35,190 --> 00:53:31,579
you enjoy it you have a really great

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00:53:37,839 --> 00:53:35,200
time yeah but no time do you let a

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production of the electrical production

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and illusion illusion get muddled up in

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00:53:46,089 --> 00:53:44,089
your head with reality that's right you

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00:53:47,380 --> 00:53:46,099
easily distinguish between the two or

1381
00:53:48,910 --> 00:53:47,390
you hope to and there's lots of people

1382
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:48,920
out there who find it difficult hard

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00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:51,530
time yeah and watch it once I once

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00:53:55,720 --> 00:53:53,599
you've seen Independence Day or or men

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00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:55,730
in black is special yeah like you know

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00:53:59,920 --> 00:53:57,770
men in black blue blue me out of the

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water like I now think that our whole

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00:54:04,540 --> 00:54:01,579
galaxies in the marble hanging off the

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00:54:07,329 --> 00:54:04,550
cat's collar well it is but don't tell

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00:54:09,250 --> 00:54:07,339
anybody that sell any boxes it's freak

1391
00:54:11,290 --> 00:54:09,260
me out ever since yeah it Levitt I go to

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00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:11,300
sleep I go but how come the galaxy so

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00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:13,520
big big on a cat's a smell they're just

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00:54:18,099 --> 00:54:16,250
transcendental attend emmanuel

1395
00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:18,109
dimensional dimensional transient and

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00:54:21,670 --> 00:54:20,240
Sinden say it's all happening oh yes i

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00:54:22,650 --> 00:54:21,680
will here we are in the skeptic tank I

1398
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:22,660
don't think we're running out of time

1399
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:25,609
yeah give Miss Lee rigid tanks almost

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gone over time today we've been

1401
00:54:31,420 --> 00:54:29,150
gibbering away too long the tanks ready

1402
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:31,430
to be pumped out the chat room and

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00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:33,130
telling us to go and have a drink I

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00:54:37,089 --> 00:54:35,810
think we will thank you Richard it's

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been great having you at Monday in

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science fiction of course teen fiction

1407
00:54:43,390 --> 00:54:41,180
and the fact separate separate but we'll

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00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:43,400
cover this topic again in a few weeks I

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00:54:47,410 --> 00:54:45,890
think we will we will definitely thanks

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00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:47,420
listeners for putting up with us have

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over the past few minutes is lint Lydia

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zdenka with real to me which is about

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00:54:56,650 --> 00:54:54,710
science fiction

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it's real to me well I to back it was

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thank you for listening to the skeptic

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zone well the next week is going to be a

1439
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:23,820
big one here in sydney australia i can

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00:56:29,240 --> 00:56:26,850
tell you we've got in a couple of days

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00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:29,250
brian dunning is making a brief visit

1442
00:56:32,540 --> 00:56:30,810
when he's flying into the country and

1443
00:56:34,070 --> 00:56:32,550
flying out to Alice Springs for a few

1444
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:34,080
days I think and then he's flying back

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00:56:39,770 --> 00:56:36,570
to Sydney I've got SGU and George rub

1446
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:39,780
some other people arriving on sad today

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00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:41,970
Monday no monday that's when they arrive

1448
00:56:46,370 --> 00:56:44,130
Monday I got a long list of people

1449
00:56:48,380 --> 00:56:46,380
arriving all this week James Randi

1450
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:48,390
himself should be here on Wednesday

1451
00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:50,160
we've got people like Jeanne Scott

1452
00:56:56,450 --> 00:56:53,280
arriving uh it it just goes on it's

1453
00:56:57,770 --> 00:56:56,460
crazy it's crazy there's a lot to do a

1454
00:57:00,920 --> 00:56:57,780
lot of running around but it's going to

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00:57:03,860 --> 00:57:00,930
be a fabulous convention let me see if I

1456
00:57:05,450 --> 00:57:03,870
can still belt out a skeptic zone for

1457
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:05,460
next Friday although the next Friday is

1458
00:57:10,670 --> 00:57:06,930
going to be pretty hectic I'll see what

1459
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:10,680
I can do if not I do appreciate your

1460
00:57:17,030 --> 00:57:12,090
understanding but I'll get it out as

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00:57:20,750 --> 00:57:17,040
soon as I can anyway so until then wish

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00:57:24,430 --> 00:57:20,760
me luck wish the TAM Australia team luck

1463
00:57:28,010 --> 00:57:24,440
as we get through this next hectic week

1464
00:57:32,990 --> 00:57:28,020
until then mrs. Richard Saunders signing

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00:57:35,300 --> 00:57:33,000
off from Sydney Australia you've been

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